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12/13/2016 4:40 pm  #41


Re: How does one heal?

Sour Feeling!! Hurt feelings more like  because of all the lies and misinformation over the years.. No I am not judging them, I am disollusioned at what they percieve to be the truth. I went there with a good heart and to someone I thought I knew, But it urned out to be all lies..  That is their path, I cannot do any more..

I will not let it consume me, but I felt I needed to relate what happened..


There is a good way,  a bad way, and a better way.  For my path, I choose the better way..
Nicholas Black Elk
 
 

12/14/2016 1:24 am  #42


Re: How does one heal?

I was speaking of them re-enforcing their sour feelings not you.They bought into the lies to re-enforce their sour feelings.

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12/14/2016 8:59 am  #43


Re: How does one heal?

Ok I understand I just thought it was directed at my actions. I tried to be fair to them as I know they had problems. I am offended by them as they manipulated my reasons for being there, so that I felt it was a wasted trip. I feel I have lost my trust in them and that is sad.  I did speak with my friend from the Cherokee federation or confereration I forget which..  She has given me advice as to what to dc after the airport incident .We have known each other many years and have met many times so I know she only has my safety in mind..

Last edited by Star Wolf Medicine Woman (12/14/2016 9:01 am)


There is a good way,  a bad way, and a better way.  For my path, I choose the better way..
Nicholas Black Elk
 
 

12/14/2016 1:50 pm  #44


Re: How does one heal?

How where you manipulated? What was your goals for going there?

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12/14/2016 3:22 pm  #45


Re: How does one heal?

They knew I went to USA periodically to spend time studying NAI History and culture. They also knew I was a Specialist Intensive Care nurse. She told me her husband needed to have his Kidney removed as he had cancer, that he had no insurance. That MD Anderson hospital was going to do the op but not the aftercare.. As it was liable to be too expensive for them. I felt I could cover the post op care for them. At the same time go to the nearby Rez near Woodville to study the Miscogi..
She said that was ok as she was Cherokee. No proplem I arranged my trip and they kept pressurising me to extend my stay so 3 weeks crept up to 5 weeks.

When I arrived I found that nothing was true. Her husband does not have Kidney cancer and there was obviously no surgery to be done.  
I thought that was bad enough to start with.. That is manipulating the situation.Lies were obviously part of it.. I was trapped there for the whole 5 weeks.. No way on, no bus or taxis, thenearest to get even a hotel was Livingstone about 18 miles away..

All I could do was try to make the best of a bad situation. So that is what I did..
So I did a fair bit of healing on various people , I met up with..  They told me I was in a very precarious situation and that if I needed a break to call and they would come and get me away for a few hours.. Which they did.. But it was only a few times.  It got worseas they tried to stop this, because I had no key if I went out even at 6 pm they locked me out, so I spent time in other peoples houses. They knew things were bad..  It would take too long to say what went on.

 


There is a good way,  a bad way, and a better way.  For my path, I choose the better way..
Nicholas Black Elk
 
 

12/15/2016 9:09 am  #46


Re: How does one heal?

One important lesson to learn here, is to be careful about Rescuing people. As a Medicine Man myself, I learned the hard way like you did. Some times it is better not to Rescue, and let others work on their own healing. You got to trust your gut feelings.

Who are "They" and how did you meet them? Did you meet them in person before? Once again, as an healer you got to be careful.

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12/15/2016 2:26 pm  #47


Re: How does one heal?

I too am a Healer and have learnt the hard way i think we do.some people will ask for help but dont really want it i always go with my intuition,
a friend who passed christmas eve last year was one such person.she was so negative hardly anyone would give her the time of day.for 4 years i worked on her as a friend.until i said you are not listening to what im saying you are on your own to get on with it. she didnt want to change she enjoyed the feeling of a few people asking her how she was. they soon got fed up and moved on.
 even her own doctor refused to speak to her in the end she wore everyone down.
 i even said asked her why she wanted Healing as she enjoyed being a victim so much.she couldnt answer me.


The spoken word always comes back as whispers in the wind.
 

12/15/2016 3:51 pm  #48


Re: How does one heal?

Thunderbow wrote:

Who are "They" and how did you meet them? Did you meet them in person before? Once again, as an healer you got to be careful.

They were the people I was staying with.. 
WhenIwrote 'They'in the lastpart of my message these people were 'rescueing me' from the people I was staying with.

I am feeling like after this, I am the one in need of healing... The whole experience has made me feel drained and cynical and rather guarded about helping others.. well from that area at least.. I will give you an example, I spoke with Native Spirit last night, we knewechof us weregenuine varing people. Niether of us like to think bad of [eople and both of us expect people who ask for our helpto be genuinely in need.  I think that is fair..
Occaisionally we come across people who ask for healing but not with a good intention, they are so negative they are known as 'Energy Vampires'.. I thinkthiswas one of those times, as I am physically drained by them and now I need to take time out myself to recuperate right when I have urgent sick cases here..


There is a good way,  a bad way, and a better way.  For my path, I choose the better way..
Nicholas Black Elk
 
 

12/16/2016 8:51 am  #49


Re: How does one heal?

Before you came to the USA, did know those who invited you here? Have been with them before? As I said before, you have to take care of yourself, before you can help others. Be sure to share more of your feelings here so we can help you with your healing. I found that being a Medicine Man is not all pretty feathers and sweetgrass.

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12/16/2016 10:46 am  #50


Re: How does one heal?

I so know what you mean and thankyou so much for your kindness and friendship.
I had not physically met them before. But knew them for 5  years.  I  jointly ran a  forum with one of them..
 I video chated with her for years with of course no idea she was in such a state.
Yes it is easy to be wise afterwards.. But I travelled over there in good faith. Thinking about it now, I did not actually see her drunk on any video chat. I wouldn't think she was able to even get on line in her condition.

On one occasion she came on she appeared with slurred speech, she said she had been prescribed a new drug and had reacted to it. This was not the case it turned out. She regularly abused the meds she was taking and added large amount of weed...Washed down with Wild Turkey 101 and anything else she could find, regardless of who owned it..
I know its not all sweetgrass and feathers http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png
I assure you I am very worldly and  not easily shocked.In my previous employment I had to find and give midwiferycare toCrack addicted mothers to be..I was the only Midwife in the districy who specilised in these difficult cases..When it all came down to it, I was part of a Multidisaplinary team, working in a pretty deprived area.
I have travelled to USA many times and mainly to meet up with NDN friends that  I had either know before from various Pow Wows or via mutual friends..So nothing like this ever occured before.

They say you never really know someone until you visit the and live with them, that is true. Alsothere a part about notknowing until youhave walked a mile in theirmoccasins.

I was lucky to meet a few other people over there who helped me and were so kind. For this I am  very grateful.
I got a Fb mssage from one lastnight who said I was his 'Forever friend' for helping him and his friends with Healing. This is the guy who suddenly became Homelss..He is trying to get his life back..
Yes it has dented my faith in people, made me more cynical perhaps. but not with  everyone.


 

Last edited by Star Wolf Medicine Woman (12/16/2016 1:09 pm)


There is a good way,  a bad way, and a better way.  For my path, I choose the better way..
Nicholas Black Elk
 
 

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